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  • Im new so i was wondering what are the best things to make at the start.Please Help !

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    • go for magma crucible & magmatic engines & pulverizer & powerd furnace for early resource processing

      add a geothermal generator, batbox, extractor, compressor, industrial centrifuge to get you started on IC2

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    • Magmatic Engines& Crucibles is good if you have a Netherportal to get Netherack thats right.But you need some Energie to start it so I started out with Stirling Engines to load the Magma Crucible for the first Lava. Another way is filling the magmatic engine by buckets of lava. Once its running just fill up Netherrack. Oh and dont stack to much Magmatics together if you dont have Redstone Energy conduits. Conductive pipes cant handle to much energy an will blow up.

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    • It really depends on your preferences a defualt start by many is to get some generators (IC2) a macerator and an electric furnace then a diamond drill(spend your first 3 diamonds on this) a batpack (maybe an electric jetpack) and then your gonna need to get some more power so here u can choose either geothermals and pump lava from the nether or use solar panels. hope that gives you a start :D

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    • same here, could someone experienced give step-by-step instructions about first actions related to ftb: machines, power supply etc. (after gethering ores and settle down)

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    • I'd do this - assuming 

      • not playing on a server - so time is an issue (afking is not an option for me. i'd rather cheat the items in then)
      • gregtech is installed (mindcrack ftb pack)

      this will be a more detailed answer to my first post.

      FTB Beginners Steps:

      • get a bed and wood, set your spawn
      • get food for a lengthy mining trip
      • craft a Miner's Backpack
      • make a stone sickle, find rubber trees, harvest them, setup a "manual" rubber tree farm at your base
      • plant some Sugar Cane (for bookshelfs later on)

      go mining until level 30 

      - mine copper (just below ground level), iron, gold, tin, at least 3 diamonds, redstone, lapis, coal, sapphires, rubies, emeralds. your don't need the other ores and goodies yet.

      - use emeralds/sapphires for working pickaxes/tools (spare rubies if possible)

      - make a diamond pickaxe (the drill is not an option, you don't have access to steel yet)

      - deposit the ores and resources in a chest at your base, don't smelt all of them yet, you'll want to pulverize/macerate them first

      • enchant the diamond pickaxe with a level 30 enchant if you didn't die ;) (optional but recommended)
      • from here on go mining only if low on resources - mine for that specific resource (keep in mind that copper is only near ground level (64), bauxite is in forest/plains, etc...
      • craft 2 project tables, and some empty plans (optional but recommended), use the plans on the more annoying recipies (circuts, machine frames, cables)
      • craft an aqueous accumulator, 2 hobbyist's steam engines, a pulverizer and a powerd furnace
      • setup your first bc powerplant: accumulator supplies water to steam engines (fueled by coal), they provide power to pulverizer and furnace
      • craft normal treetaps, harvest sticky resin
      • pulverize all your ores, smelt the dusts, smelt 12 rubber
      • craft 2 hoppers, put them on pulverizer and furnace. if you configure the output sides correctly you have a slow but nearly maintenance free ore processing chain very early in the game.
      • create a nether portal, go to the nether. harvest glowstone and a few stacks of netherrack
      • craft a magma crucible, 3-4 magmantic engines
      • setup your magma powerplant: netherrack goes into the crucible, add a ic tank to one side, pump the lava to the magmatic engines. connect engines and crucible to existing bc powerlines
      • use the steam engines to jump start the crucible. as soon as the magmatic engines are running you can turn the steam engines off.
      • craft a geothermal generator, batbox and optional an mfe 
      • connect the geothermal to the laval pipe after the engines, use copper cables to connect batbox or mfe to geothermal.
      • craft a compressor, extractor and hook them up to your ic2 power grid.
      • put your sticky resin in the extractor to get the rubber 
      • craft your jetpack!!!

      now, your first small and slow workshop is ready.

      Just a side note: I prefer the crucible lava generation over the nether - lava cell - ender chest, and i prefer the pulverizer & powerd furnace over their ic counterparts, that is why i start with bc power. you could skip bc power though and go for normal ic2 macerator & electric furnace if you want.

      From there on, gregtech gets very power hungry, so you will want to improve your ic2 power production if you want to explore deeper into this mod (and all the ic2 stuff like mining laser and quantum suit)

      midgame power options (i know of) and my opinion on them:

      • advanced solar panel: 8EU/t (rather cheap, low energy output, but the energy is free. upgradeable for end game). Keep in mind that your geothermal generator outputs 24EU/t for almost nothing as well
      • boiler & steam turbine: 100EU/t (expensive on steel! but very fuel efficient once heated up. you need to have > 2 stacks of steel, so you would probably have to build a railcraft blast furnace, and that thing is a pain in the ass, and slower than a snail. a good option though if you're on a server because you could keep it running over night.)
      • nuclear reactor: EU/t depends on layout somewhere between 30 and 90 in a basic reactor design(expensive, good if you have much uranium)
      • MFFS extractor - capacitator - converter: configurable output (128EU/t in my world atm) (very expensive to build, but you can use forcicium as a fuel which has no use otherwise, other than forcefields) this is what i use in my current world
      • upgrade geothermals to thermal generators (they are more efficient on the lava: 24EU/t (go crazy on lava acquisition e.g. via mystraft portals to the nether & railcraft tank carts /multiple crucibles/enderchests in the nether. propably the most efficient and cheapest route. I somehow don't like it.) 

      there are a few other things you could do, but i don't like them very much:

      • biogas bio generators: 8EU/t (inefficient)
      • diesel generators 8EU/t or 16EU/t (biofuel, fuel) semifluid generators 8EU/t (creosete oil etc.) (inefficient)
      • mass water / wind mills (very small amount of free power, also an early starting option)
      • basic ic2 generators fueld by scaffolding (very efficient, somehow I consider this a bug...)

      If you play without gregtech, you probably want to stick with geothermals or solars, aso you won't need much power until you start mass fabrication

      When I've got some time, I will make this into some small Beginners Tutorial...

      Cheers

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    • "setup your magma powerplant: netherrack goes into the crucible, add a ic tank to one side, pump the lava to the magmatic engines. connect engines and crucible to existing bc powerlines"

      What is an ic tank?

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    • ic stands for industrial craft. but that was an error, i meant bc (build craft) tank. 

      btw, it doesn't really matter which tank you use, as long as it can store lava. 

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    • I think Darkguhl's post was an excellent action list for progression.  Although I'd like to note that I got turned off Magmatic engines.  They overheat and lock up, requiring that you whack (right-click) them with a crescent hammer or omniwrench to start working again.  They overheat FAST and traveling to the nether to fix them over and over is annoying.

      I found the simplest setup to be a BC pump over a lava sea in the Nether.  A single redstone engine is enough at first.  Place an Ender Tank right next to the pump.  I placed a chunk loader next to it.  Then place another Ender Tank at where you want to use your lava, preseumably piping it into your geothermals.  

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    • if you need a magma crucible for lava, you're going to fail. that thing costs more energy than anything. if you want lava, get some capsules and fill them in the nether, or get a buildcraft pump and attach it to a tesseract.

      personally, i think the best engine early game is dartcraft force engine with a water source attached (aqueous accumulator from thermal expansion)

      then go for the magmatic engines later once you have enough tech to afford the nether lava pump.

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    • 24.16.140.24 wrote:
      I think Darkguhl's post was an excellent action list for progression.  Although I'd like to note that I got turned off Magmatic engines.  They overheat and lock up, requiring that you whack (right-click) them with a crescent hammer or omniwrench to start working again.  They overheat FAST and traveling to the nether to fix them over and over is annoying.

      I found the simplest setup to be a BC pump over a lava sea in the Nether.  A single redstone engine is enough at first.  Place an Ender Tank right next to the pump.  I placed a chunk loader next to it.  Then place another Ender Tank at where you want to use your lava, preseumably piping it into your geothermals.  


      That's not an 'early dtart' though, as Ender tanks are a little heavy on resources early on. 

      And besides, a wrench isn't expensive, and if u keep your Magma Crucible in your base, you won't have to go far to repair them, when/if they happen to overheat or lock up. 

      In my current world (about 12 hour of gameplay so far) I have the Magma Crucible + 4 Magmatic Engine + IC Tank + Redstone engine to pump lava to engines and Geothermal Generators, and this setup works great for this early in the game. 

      A single Macerator with 2 Overclockers does the job, and a single Electric Furnace with 2 overclockers is more than enough to smelt the dusts. 

      I do, however, not smelt iron, gold and copper in my electric furnace, as i have a smeltery setup where i just turn it all into blocks, from which i also get 2 ingots per ore block. and with on-site lava production, my smeltery is always active.


      For a decent start, however, i opted for the early 9 slot smeltery, which enabled me to get my Iron Hammer and Excavator, add a diamond and 50 redstone, and you are good to go mining.

      I feel that a Diamond Pickaxe (Vanilla version) is a bit of a waste on resources, and you actually mine more efficiently with a hammer (stone to start off, and then Iron as you have your smeltery setup) 


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